yes yes...of course...and now that we have them all around us ... these who have forgotten ...forgotten!!!???...no!...these who boldly deny their that which they are generated by and which they are ...what are we doing about it...me and you...are we going to wait for that which we are to wipe the slate clean and start again?...or are we going to join it ...are we going to guide it...are we going to ride its terrifying waves of energy and its cosmic clashes as it kneads itself into what it may be and become...do we dare lead it into its non being?...are we going to become ourselves...are we going to let it be what it may be through and beyond us...who dares come forward to the frontiers of human perception to perceive what is, what was and what may be?...who dares to own and guide the almighty...?..of them truly it shall be said "(s)he is going mad again".

Nirmalan

--- On Tue, Jan 21, 2014, Fred Meagher wrote ---

They had said he was going mad again and it was time to go forth into the wilderness and speak with the Gods. The ants flowed like water between his fingers. His footsteps on the dunes were forward and backward blowing in the wind. The Ancestors ringed the canyon as stone pillars looking down on him. The clouds danced in figures of dream and swirling symbols of time and fate.

When he returned he told them of the signs that had been sent to him and they laughed when he said he saw in time to come there would be none among the people who spoke with the Spirits and the wind.

He sat and watched the passersby, each clutched a magic screen to make the Sun and Moon and Earth disappear. Not one could feel the winds embrace or the loving-kindness of the Sun.

They laughed at such a vision. No people could ever have lived who had forgotten their father the Sun or their mother the Earth.

Handhelds in the hands of Hell we march in lock step to our individual and collective doom. Lost to nature, life and to time our universe collapses into a one dimensional screen. Can we look up to share the Sun once again and dance together in the rain?

When he had said this they had said he was going mad again. It was time to go forth into the wilderness and speak with the gods. The ants flowed like water between his fingers. His footsteps on the dunes were forward and backward blowing in the wind. The Ancestors ringed the canyon as stone pillars looking down on him. The clouds danced in figures of dream and swirling symbols of time and fate.

Fred M.

The Earth as a Cultural Ecology; the function of affectivley charged ritual:

Modern ceremonialism: driver’s license at 16-marrige-baptism-graduation-bootcamp-sports-musical events—holidays-elections.

Ancient rituals: dancing-singing-recitation of history myth-planting, harvest, hunting ceremonies-gathering of tribes.

Culture, systemic theory: An extrasomatic adaptive system that is employed in the integration of a society with its environment and with other sociocultural systems. Culture in this sense is not nessesarily shared; it is participated in by men. In cultural systems, people, things and places are components in s field that consists of environmental and sociocultural subsystems, and the locus of cultural process is in the dynamic articulations of these subsystems. Lewis Binford in “Archeological Systematics and the study of Culture Process.”

Culture, normative theory: A historically derived system of shared ideas, values, and beliefs underlying behavior; it is the anthropologist task to abstract this ideational basis or set of normative concepts from the cultural products or behaviors which are their objectification.

Thomas Blackburn in “Ceremonial Integration and Social Interaction in Aboriginal California.”

--- On Sat, Jan 18, 2014, S´ace G root wrote ---

Here we could focus on and from an ancient symbol.

This origins a cent-er while a family member is aware of 100 years of family members alive ..

This is a most sym-pli and wellknown illustration of integrality

In an initiation we emphasize 3 entities as interconnected fields of a 'working energetic hermetic type'

3 examples are

Past Present Future

Observing Feeling Thinking

Radiative Attractive Receptive

Maybe those 3 spiral types are parallel universes that can be experienced all together uniting focus on the mystery ..

Then a fourth valued working principle pops as binding balance ..

Let us try a fourth solution that fits and matches universally, okay?

Past Present Future find a momentum , the Now illusion.

Observing Feeling Thinking find a Knowing, the Knowledge basement.

Radiative Attractive Receptive balance in a Transmissive, the Decision agreed upon.

Then what is the general conclusion for what the Symbol illustrates?

The class yells: hermetic, energy, balance, tao, economy, language, ilkusion, reality, oxymoron, .... etc .. ( reply some other nine , when it sprouts locally)

A fourth hermetic type as guidance could be Love Life Void .. An attempt to characterize the effects within the symbol are:

LOVE is the common radiative illusion from the symbol as an integral working whole.

LIFE is as following the line, there is only one single line which energetically could be cycled in a fraction of a second .. and each spot on the line could fill a page ..

VOID is in fact every split second, and only one of thousand split seconds could mean either a disaster or a very euphoric synchrone happening as bliss.

The fourth value matching the 3 is the Glory of interconnectedness while experiencing the collective: the continuous celebration of our planet in the given timespirit.

( But then forget all what has been relayed here .. see for yourself whether your story pops synchrone sets .. )

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